Originally published on OCTOBER 21, 2008
Too many are citing Barack Obama’s inexperience as a reason he is not qualified for the Presidency when it is precisely his experience that we should be looking at.
We are now facing a national housing crisis and Obama has promised to fix it by creating the Affordable Housing Trust Fund that would give developers $500 million dollars a year. Well let’s take a look at Barack’s experience in Chicago as a community organizer and Senator. He played a key role in coauthoring an Illinois law that created new tax credits for developers and increased federal subsidies.
Sounds like an Affordable Housing Trust Fund. So let’s see the thriving neighborhoods under Obama’s watch:
There are several hundred apartments like this in Obama’s former district that are in disrepair. Just in Grove Parc Plaza there are 504 apartments most of which are unsafe. Ninety-nine units are vacant because they are uninhabitable because of damage from fire, collapsed roofs, sewage back ups, not to mention the rodent infestations.
In 2006, inspectors graded the complex 11 out of 100 which means it now faces demolition. So who benefitted the most from this Chicago housing project? Because it obviously wasn’t the south-side neighborhoods.
Barack supporter and former fundraiser Tony Rezko’s company received money to rehab more than 1000 of these apartments. Where do you think the majority of that money went? Rumor has it that he made huge campaign contributions. Do we really need an Affordable Housing Trust Fund to develop and manage substandard housing in the rest of the country? What kind of change is Barack Obama’s experience going to bring?
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan.
That’s pretty much a load but catscratch is sad.
Republicans run for office in urban districts all the time. The cities are the ones who fear Republicans because you liberals always say we are racists. You need them to stay on your Fear Plantation. You fear the day the minorities leave your asses at the dance the way your party has left them there time and again.
Holy shit, I thought that was Gaza!
It’s the South Side of Chicago. Congratulations, you found aerial shots of crappy buildings there. There are many worse as well. What exactly do you think would be happening in the South Side if there wasn’t programs calling for tax credits for developers and the like?
And wait just a minute! Tax credits for business development sounds like an oddly pro-business policy position to me. Business leads to jobs leads to more homes and better neighborhoods, right? What would you have happen in the South Side? I bet I know…it’s a bunch of filthy Democrats so you’d probably rather see any government money withheld until the entire area is a blighted ghetto. It may be rough but it’s alive. Chicago has millions of people, is an enormous economic engine in this country…preserving that makes a lot more sense than 10 million bucks of debt for a hockey center in Wasilla.
It is a blighted ghetto now you asshole. Look at the roof falling in.
Are you admitting low taxes grow the economy? Careful; you may make the case for low taxes.
As far as filthy Democrats, why do they rule over every poor and violent section of our nation?
Detroit for example. Why is it not a booming metropolis? Why is the democrat rust belt still suffering, considering the enlightened rulers they have?
Government money don’t go to those homes in Grove Parc, it went into politicians war chests.
Democrats end up in power in places where things turn to crap because neocons like you leave them to the wolves. Doesn’t matter what the causes are, although you’d attribute them to either the people themselves or the government attemppts to help them. The more you think about it the more you realize what a circular system that is. It goes like this:
1. Got problems in your neighborhood? Fix them yourself!
2. That doesn’t work, and governemnt gets involved? Government can now be blamed for the problems.
3. See 1.
Meanwhile thugs in Congress fight tooth and nail against getting the tax dollars that flow out of these densely populated areas back into them to help recover areas that are failing. Asshats from places like Kansas and Oklahoma who pay almost nothing in taxes and generate less in wealth. Our cities are our economic engines. Even business leaders see value in preserving them…they just don’t want to foot the bill themselves. The main reason why you have to throw tax dollars at these problems is because the many businesses that thrive in our cities want to pay their workers crap, offer them no benefits, and then have the government borrow from China to fund welfare programs to make up the slack. It’s indirect corporate welfare, slung across the backs of our grandchildren…and as a conservative I hope you can appreciate the deep irony of that.
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catscratch, you have lied.
“Democrats end up in power in places where things turn to crap because neocons like you leave them to the wolves.”
From 1931 till today, please list the neo-con Mayors of Chicago.
Then Republican Mayors form Detroit.
From 1961 till today, L.A. had ONE Republican Mayor.
You know these facts, but you tried to B.S. your way through it by blaming neo-cons.
I didn’t say there ever was a neocon mayor in any of those cities…don’t put words in my mouth. Not a single lie in what I said except the one you made up to inflate your “I win all arguments” ego. You keep using that word…I do not think it means what you think it means.
A more fair-minded person would have interpreted my comments as stated: people turn to the Democrats because the selfish business leaders (read: Republicans) of their city would prefer to shovel them all into ghettos and pay them minimum wage (or less than that if they could ever get the minimum wage off the books). This does NOT mean all business leaders are like this. But enough are that as the neighborhoods start to fall apart due to this mistreatment of the working/lower class they turn to the only party in our stupid 2-party system that even pretends to care: the Democrats. Once this happens the Republican constituents flee to the ‘burbs, gerrymander them all to hell, and filibuster city council meetings to ensure things like living wages never happen. Just because Republicans are masters of obstruction doesn’t mean the Democrats aren’t mostly right about these issues.
Look at you weasel around because you can’t admit the Democrat Party destroyed these areas.
Shameful.
“I win all arguments” ego.
What a crybaby you are.
Guests post more than three sentences: “long-winded”, and “weasel around”.
Rude Dog posts hundreds of empty words = informative news post.
Try harder.
You did weasel around, everyone can see it.
You still can’t address the huge lie you told blaming neo cons.
“Rude Dog posts hundreds of empty words = informative news post.”
Look at this thread. You outposted me 3 to 1 on words.
Damn, you are the best example of a modern liberal I could ask for.
Thanks for playing your role so well.
No, what I am telling you is that if I post a short reply, you complain there is no substance and dismiss it. If i post a long, substantive reply, you say I am long-winded or I am “weaseling around”. SO it doesn’t matter what I type, you are going to tailor your predetermined dismissal based on the length of the post. I sometimes wonder if you are a bot. Like the Palin Interview Generator.
Just name the neo-con Mayors.
No, because that is never what I said. You have inferred that from what I have said because it fits your paradigm of us-vs-them. It’s the same every time with you…and if I finally cave in and answer the question you made up in response to what you think I said you’ll just run down another rabbit trail, crying victory all the way. It’s obvious you have never won an actual argument with a thinking person if this is how you go about it.
And this is the part where you reply saying I was too afraid to answer or call me a liar again. Go right on ahead, it’s part of the script, and any reader will read back through the comments and the ones with brains will recognize the exact point when you started speaking Klingon.
I hear Wasilla was the Methampetamine capital of Alaksa…
Here’s where you said it:
“Democrats end up in power in places where things turn to crap because neocons like you leave them to the wolves.”
Now let’s have the names.
Cities are more than their mayors. So what you think i said and what i actually said are, as usually, very different. In fact if you read up you find i had a lot more to say about the business owners in the cities than the government. People look to a party that has their interests at heart when private enterprise failed them. Had nothing to do with any mayors at all, so stop beating up the retarded cousin of what I was actually talking about.
And btw DMG wins the thread, that’s hilarious, LOL!!!!
Oooh! My girlfriend DMG wins!
Kissy Kissy!
DMG got some catscratch fever…
You girls go get a room.
Where’s them neo-con mayors at?
Guess you hit a nerve, Rude is kind of pissy tonight isn’t he?
Last call for neo-con mayors.
Neo-con ghetto mayors anybody?
More children are murdered on the southside of Chicago by drive-by and at-random and execution-type shootings then Wasilla has Meth users. Never forget that. The latest, a 10 year old girl shot down by 4 gangbangers on 87th and Exchange. Less then 5 miles from Obama’s mansion in the Hyde Park neighborhood
It’s not the fault of neo-con mayors or Big Corporations, it’s lazy people who don’t care to take care of what they have. Then they complain that they need help cleaning up the place from the government which is why they will elect those who falsely promise that they will help them but end up just helping their buddies and themselves.
So instead of getting fed up with all the false promises and elect someone you will help them help themselves the same old tradition of electing their next savior gets passed down from generation to generation and begins the whole cycle again.
But in the end they blame the big bad corporations. When it’s their fault that they are to lazy to take care of themselves or to do better with so many “programs” to help them. Relying on minimum wage and Obama Hood types to save them. Minimum wage is supposed to be a stepping stone for people to want to do better not just take it and let the government do the rest.
Typical entitlement attitude that runs like a bad case of diarrhea throughout America today.
No no I think I get what he is saying now.
Republicans destroyed Chicago so the people there voted in Democrats to save the day. But the complete lack of progress in 77yrs of Democrat leadership is also the Republicans fault.
*Grunt* Republican baaaaad *mmphh* mmphh* Democrat goooood *grunt*
For a self-proclaimed thinking person you come off more like a stooge catscratch. Or am I thinking that you said something you were thinking when I started thinking about thinking you were thinking?
Oh and does this mean evil businessmen in cities with Republican mayors are less evil than those in Chicago?
The whole lot of you are just daft. “Left for the wolves” is basically a summation of the entire hyper-capitalist Randian philosophy that every neo-con wanks to at night while looking at the cover of Atlas Shrugged. And for the record Marx was just as stupid. The best approach lies in the middle. So when I said neo-cons left people to the wolves so they voted in a party that represents their interests, it meant exactly that. I didn’t say the neo-cons were in control of the government and got ousted. I said nothing about neo-con versus liberal mayors. You gusy act as though the way to fix a broken neighborhood is to put flower boxes in the windows or put together some kind of montage of people opening up businesses. But when areas go downhill the only thing that has ever been shown to work is for the entire community to come together to clean things up.
No, you don’t care what happens in the inner cities because you guys are the first ones to flee to the suburbs. Then you cry about your tax rates in the belt while you commute into that very city to partake of the benefits it provides, all the while saying that the poor people left behind in the ghetto are the source of their own misery. It’s a tidy worldview…if you’re a virus.
catscratch, which ghetto do you live in?
Catscratch, just name me one inner city that you’ve been to recently to help them out. And one family you gave your hard earned money to because you felt bad for them because they had 4 children to feed and were “unable” or unwilling to work and instead received “assistance” from the government.
I have yet to hear any stories from the rush of immigrants into the U.S. starting over a century ago of how they were entitled to government help. They did what they had to do to reach for the American dream and would never think of looking for a handout from anyone. They knew enough that to do well for themselves and their families that they had to work hard to achieve that.
Now, in today’s society people are taught that they are entitled to wealth, happiness, and whatever they please and if they don’t get it it’s the governments fault or the evil business owners that are holding them back. I’m sick of hearing it and it’s idiots like you that help propagate that idea.
I am by no means saying that hard times can’t fall on someone and they may need some help. But, to consider welfare and food stamps a “career with the government” is just plain wrong.
And your definition of virus is a little off there. The virus is a negative organism that infects the cells around it and mutates or infects it to propagate itself through the system.
I would suggest our view is more like a vaccine, something that will destroy the virus and allow cells to live a healthy life.
Man, he doesnt’t want to even say what ghetto he lives in.
He sent some lame “You stalk people” garbage(defending Samir Khan)because he got caught being full of crap again. *trashbin*
catscratch, just tell us the ghetto you live in man.
No. May as well stop asking. Care to explain what possible relevance it has to anything? Other than opening up another of your patented personal lines of attack to obfuscate your lack of a point?
And to Yes I Served, who actually has something to say:
I do not roam the inner cities anywhere, I live in the suburbs. So do most people. Would I live in the city? If it were convenient, sure…I also work in the suburbs. So I am not avoiding the inner city, it just doesn’t come into play much in my day-to-day life.
You are correct that immigrants coming into America did not receive handouts from the government. But they did partake of the civic benefits of the city they moved into. Roads, schools, police…all paid for with taxes. And when you look at these blighted areas, what do you see? Potholes in the roads. Run-down schools. Police avoid the areas or shoot on sight. Meanwhile in the upscale parts of town road crews are laboring, you have 2 cops on every corner, and both the public and private schools are well taken care of. But the people of the “ghetto” are not all criminals. Many are just poor. They have homes but don;t want to leave and abandon their neighborhoods.
In the face of that, I choose to say: let’s help them. Yes, there are vagrants and criminals there. Lock them up, put them to work, absolutely. But as you criticize Obama because some of the part of Chicago that he represented is falling apart, ask yourself: what exactly was he supposed to do? Repair the roofs himself? Open up 100 new businesses with his own money? As much fun as you are having pretty much making fun of the economic conditions there, what would a conservative have done differently? Oh yeah…turn their back and say fix it your damned selves. After all, their nice new suburbs aren’t falling apart yet, so it’s obviously because a better class of people live there than in the inner cities. And in 20 years they’ll move outwards yet again, and refuse to fight the good fight that needs to be undertaken.
Pathetic catscratch. You sholud try to stay on topic from now on. Deep water doesn’t do you any good.
Wow man, I cant take this catscratch guy any more. Cant even read his whole post its so full of bullshit so I am going to just address this one thing he said.
“And when you look at these blighted areas, what do you see? Potholes in the roads. Run-down schools. Police avoid the areas or shoot on sight. Meanwhile in the upscale parts of town road crews are laboring, you have 2 cops on every corner, and both the public and private schools are well taken care of. But the people of the “ghetto” are not all criminals. Many are just poor. They have homes but don;t want to leave and abandon their neighborhoods.”
First off, there are very few cops patrolling upscale parts of town in any city in the US, unless you count the ones who happen to live there. They are concentrated in the bad areas of town where crime is at its highest, much to the discontent of the inhabitants of said areas. THEY BITCH BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY POLICE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS!!!! They cry about the racist police always messing in their shit!!! when in most cases the cops are trying to get the bad guys off the street and out of their neighborhoods! I agree that not all people in the ghetto are criminals, but in most cases they side with the criminals and obstruct the police. Maybe this is out of fear, which I can understand, but blame needs to be lain where it belongs on BOTH sides.
The schools are shit not because upscale area schools are better funded but because good teachers dont want to work where the “children” point guns in their faces during class! There are private schools, charter schools, and many other options beside public government funded schools. Many of them are free if you put in enough volunteer time. Democrats shoot down voucher programs EVERY time its on the ballot and if it does somehow manage to pass the Democrat run school-board declares it unconstitutional and sues the state! Which is another way they keep poor kids in shitty public schools, but at least the Dems are looking out for them!
Sorry for the caps Rude Dog and the exclamation points but damn that guy is starting to piss me off. Can I get DMG back?
mrace: I find it pisses people off the most when they have to use brain cells they haven’t activated since they were about 8. So sorry to put you through that. But enjoy the feeling…if you stretch those neurons a bit more often you might stave off apoptosis.
rude: Hey, at least I am still talking about the topic. You’re the one that tried to derail the thing into some kind of weird “where do YOU live?” wang-comparison test.
catscratch you have drowned.
And we don’t want to see your wang.
Lol, a personal attack, but no meat and potatoes to refute what I said. Classic catscratch!
You are wrong again, this time about my temperament.
I find it pisses me off the most when it takes so little brain power to put down your bullshit posts, which is why I have to call for others to come here and argue with, because you are completely inept.
catscratch, you are more exposed than Joe Biden at a speaking engagement.
Yeah, keep up the circle jerk. Tried talking about the topic, that seldom works here, drop into the gutter to wrestle with the slime for a post or two for the hell of it. And what’s to refute, mrace? The good people in those neighborhoods don’t comaplain about there being too many police. They want help. They want their tax dollars to also be used for things like repairing the roads. They want their schools to have things like computer labs and they want good teachers. And no, you dimwit, not every inner city school is a scene out of “Gangster’s Paradise”. Yes, there is more violence in schools now. But hell, look at the rest of our culture. There are parents in the present day that are not doing enough to help their own children. But if those parents fail, what is your solution? Private schools? Volunteer work to pay the tuition? Their parents suck…so you’d just as soon offer them no rope to climb out of the hole with at all.
Acting all tough like you can handle the whole world with no help, so why can’t everyone else…that’s easy to say when things have already gone your way. It is in your willingness to help your fellow man that you will find the true measure of your manhood.
Man the tears…
“It is in your willingness to help your fellow man that you will find the true measure of your manhood.”
Good, now which bad neighborhood are you moving into to dedicate your life to helping out in?
Obama knows of a couple…
What an awesome pinko bust down. That guy couldn’t deliver after he was caught blaming Republicans.
When Democrats can’t blame Republicans they begin to panic that someone will see they are incompetent.
This is sad. As a liberal, I think that while things could have been handled better in most cities, the Republicans are simply too scared to campaign there. That’s why Democrats are always running them.
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